Modern Metabolic Health with Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD

When To Lower Your GLP-1 Dose

Lindsay Ogle, MD

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If your GLP-1 dose is “working” but you feel miserable, can’t eat, or the weight is falling off too fast, that is not a win. I’m Dr. Lindsay Ogle, board-certified in obesity medicine, and I’m breaking down the most common reasons I decide to lower a patient’s GLP-1 medication dose and how we do it safely and thoughtfully.

We start with side effects, especially GI symptoms that come from slowed stomach emptying: nausea, indigestion, acid reflux, constipation, diarrhea and bloating. I also touch on less typical complaints like fatigue, headaches and mood changes, and I share when it’s reasonable to hold steady versus when moderate or severe symptoms mean you should contact your prescriber and consider dose reduction or a short break. Just as important, I explain how hydration, nutrition quality, protein intake and meal timing can reduce side effects and support better tolerance.

Next, we talk about appetite. GLP-1 therapy should bring appetite back to a healthy baseline, not erase it. If you’re skipping meals, struggling to eat, or drifting into severe restriction, the dose is too high and the risks add up: nutrient deficiencies, loss of lean muscle, fatigue and even hair loss. I also cover rapid weight loss (more than about two pounds per week on average) and why it can raise the odds of dehydration, kidney stress and gallbladder disease.

Finally, I walk through tapering after reaching goals, how I monitor hunger, fullness, food noise and blood sugars, and why my philosophy is the lowest effective dose, especially when cost is a factor. If this helped you, subscribe, share with someone navigating GLP-1s, and leave a review. What’s the biggest question you want answered about dosing?


How to Manage GLP-1 Side Effects:

Nausea: https://youtu.be/07-QFm71YMo?si=ySEQtNdf1Pph9-L2

Constipation: https://youtu.be/rog26mYgg9g?si=ER3jharJZ8F6K4GJ

Reflux: https://youtu.be/cwJfaq6CA-o

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Welcome And Medical Disclaimer

Dr. Lindsay Ogle, MD

Welcome to the Modern Metabolic Health Podcast with your host, Dr. Lindsay Ogle, Board Certified Family Medicine and Obesity Medicine Physician. Here we learn how we can treat and prevent modern metabolic conditions such as diabetes, PCOS, fatty liver disease, metabolic syndrome, sleep apnea, and more. We focus on optimizing lifestyle while utilizing safe and effective medical treatment. Please remember that while I am a physician, I am not your physician. Everything discussed here is provided as general medical knowledge and not direct medical advice. Please talk to your doctor about what is best for you. Welcome back. Last week we talked about reasons why you would want to increase your GLP1 dose. And today we're going to talk about reasons why you might want to decrease your GLP1 dose. My name is Dr. Lindsay Ogle, and I'm a board certified obesity medicine physician. And many of my patients are on GLP1 medications, so I help them titrate their dose over the course of their treatment during initiation, maintenance, and if we are considering titrating off of a GLP1 once we've reached our goals or for other reasons. So this is something that I have a lot of experience with. And as I mentioned last week, it is very nuanced. So there's not a set schedule that someone should be on. There's not an algorithm that you can follow exactly. This is something that really needs to be individualized between you and your physician. And so I say that to take all this information with a grain of salt, and I hope that going over these certain decision trees help to highlight the nuance of prescribing GLP1 medications. And if you are not getting this nuance discussion with your physician or your prescriber, then consider looking for somebody who is taking all of these factors into account. So as I mentioned last week, I always go over side effects with my patients because many people do have side effects on GLP1 medications. By far the most common are GI-related side effects related to the slowing of the emptying of the stomach. So that could lead to nausea, indigestion, acid reflex, constipation. It can also lead to loose stools and diarrhea, bloating. Some people may also have more of the atypical side effects like fatigue or mood changes or like a pens and needle sensation, headache. There are a few other side effects that may occur. So if you are experiencing anything new when you start or titrate a GLP1 medication, bring that back to your doctor and let them know if it is significant or severe, or I would say even moderate, reach out to them between appointments. But if it's more mild, you can save it until your next appointment with them, which should at least be monthly in the beginning. But usually no longer than every three months checking in with your doctor. As I mentioned last week, if you're having mild side effects, then you could at the very least stay at that current dose. You don't necessarily need to go down on your dose, but if you're having more moderate and definitely severe side effects, then maybe we need to back off on your dose for at least a little bit of time to allow your body to adjust to being on a GLP1 medication, as well as having the opportunity to focus on lifestyle modifications to mitigate those side effects because much of the side effects can be mitigated through adjustments in hydration, nutrition, and timing of meals. And I have talked about these GI side effects in prior podcasts and YouTube videos, which I will link below so you can check out to go into more depth about those side effects and how to manage them. But if you again, if you are having moderate and definitely severe side effects, then you should either reduce your dose or maybe take a break from your GLP1 for a for a moment in time. Last week we also talked about appetite. And if your appetite is very suppressed and you find it difficult to eat meals or even have snacks throughout the day, then that dose is too high for you. And you need to let your doctor know because you should either stop your GLP1 or decrease your dose. The goal of these medications is to control appetite and bring it back to a steady state or what would be considered a normal appetite rather than dysregulated appetite. People living with obesity have increased hunger, and that can either be the primary cause of obesity or it could be related to the obesity itself. And it leads to a like a feedback loop that can then promote continued obesity. Medications in the past that we had to treat obesity really focus on appetite suppression. And GOP1 medications also suppress appetite and control food noise and cravings. And that's one of the ways that they work. And that's very helpful and can help to ensure that a healthy nutrition plan is followed and we're able to more easily eat smaller portions or appropriate portions. But we do not want to suppress that, suppress the appetite to the point of skipping meals or having prolonged fasting or having severe caloric restriction because that's disordered eating. And these medications are not supporting disordered eating. That is inappropriate use of these medications. And in addition to that disordered eating, it can lead to nutritional deficiencies, loss of muscle, fatigue. It can also lead to hair loss down the line. There are many, many negative side effects, both immediate and in the future, from excessive restriction. So we do not want to suppress that appetite, we want to control it. So if your appetite is too suppressed, let your doctor know and maybe you need to reduce your dose. Another thing to consider is if you are rapidly losing weight. And typically that would also correlate with the overly suppressed appetite, but not always. And if you are experiencing rapid weight loss, and that is on average more than two pounds per week, then you want to talk to your doctor about that because rapid weight loss also has negative consequences. Some of it is similar to the decreased nutrition, and it could lead to decreased muscle loss, which can then in turn in the future lead to decreased metabolism and decreased functional capacity. But it also can lead to other complications like gallbladder disease, which can be very problematic, especially if not caught or managed. For many people, it can also be linked with dehydration, which can lead to issues with kidney function. So we do not want to lose weight too rapidly. We are looking at long-term health. And to achieve that, then we want to have a slower or moderate weight loss over time and set ourselves up to have the ability to maintain that weight loss in a healthful way. Another time we consider reducing our dose is when we've reached our health goals. And so if you could be on a GLP1 medication for the treatment of obesity, most of my patients are, but some of my patients are on it for type 2 diabetes or other metabolic conditions. And once those conditions are controlled, then we can consider reducing the dose. And we want to do this in a very controlled and monitored fashion. Because if we cut back on the dose and we would just go down to that, you know, next lowest dose, then we want to monitor your response. If you are having increased hunger, decreased fullness, increased food noise, blood sugars going up, then we realize that we can't go down to that lower dose and we need to go back up to that higher dose. But if you're doing very well at that next lowest dose, then let's stay there and we'll continue that for a period of time, typically another couple of months, and then we can reassess if we want to then try the next lowest dose. And again, reassess with those similar um parameters. And we can continue to do that over time. This is something that I think about a little bit more for my patients who do not have insurance coverage for their GLP1 medications and they're paying for their medication out of pocket. And I want to be really sensitive to the amount of money that they're spending each month for their treatment. And so if we can maintain their health long term on a lower dose or maybe less frequent dosing, then I want to try to find the lowest dose possible for them that's effective. For my patients who do have insurance coverage, um, this isn't as much of a factor, but I still my philosophy with treating patients is we want to be on the lowest effective dose possible to mitigate and lower chances of having side effects long term. And so we still might try this in the right patient, but again with close monitoring. And I want to highlight that if you are not able to go on a lower dose or go off of your GLP1, that does not mean that you're failing or doing anything wrong. Studies consistently show that most people need to continue the GLP1 medication long term for maintenance of either their obesity or their metabolic disease. But um there are a subset of people who are able to go off. And we don't know exactly why that is. Um obesity and insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes are multifactorial. There are genetic components, environmental components. It also takes into account how long you have had obesity or your metabolic condition. And so do not blame yourself if you're not able to reduce or stop your medication. It's not in your control. So um work with your doctor, find what is best for you. But those are some of the reasons why I would reduce the dose of someone's GLP1 medication. I hope you found this helpful. If you have any questions, please let me know, and I will see you next week. Take care. Thank you for listening and seeing how you can improve your metabolic health in this modern world. If you found this information helpful, please share with a friend, family member, or colleague. We need to do all we can to combat the dangerous misinformation that is out there. Please subscribe and write a review. This will help others find the podcast so they may also improve their metabolic health. I look forward to our conversation next week.